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No Way Out
Welcome to the No Way Out podcast where we examine the variety of domains and disciplines behind John R. Boyd’s OODA sketch and why, today, more than ever, it is an imperative to understand Boyd’s axiomatic sketch of how organisms, individuals, teams, corporations, and governments comprehend, shape, and adapt in our VUCA world.
Podcasting since 2023 • 120 episodes
No Way Out
Latest Episodes
From Big Bang to Brain: How Entropy Shapes Safety and Systems with David Slater, PhD
Step into the fascinating world where neuroscience meets safety in this mind-expanding conversation with Professor David Slater. Beyond conventional safety thinking, we explore how our brains actually construct reality and what this means for c...
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Season 3
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Episode 120
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1:02:14

Pre-Event Indicators: Staying Left of Bang With Patrick Van Horne
What if you could see disruption coming before it hits? The concept of "Left of Bang" transforms how we understand threat detection and strategic advantage—not just in combat zones, but in boardrooms, investment portfolios, and everyday situati...
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Episode 119
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1:13:37

Learning War, Winning in the Age of AI: Lessons in Adaptive Strategy with Trent Hone
What can today's organizations learn from the US Navy's approach to innovation during the rapid technological changes of the 1920s, 30s, and 40s? Trent Hone reveals how naval leadership created a remarkably effective learning system during this...
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Season 2
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Episode 118
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1:10:50

Drones, Airspace, AI, and Decision Making: DroneUp CEO on Leading in Complexity
When Tom Walker walked into a Best Buy and saw drone technology more advanced than the space shuttle selling for under $1,000, he knew aerial autonomous systems would fundamentally change society. What he couldn't have predicted was reconnectin...
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Season 2
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Episode 117
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1:05:00

Top Gun Day Special: The Four Ps of OODA
In this electrifying No Way Out podcast episode, recorded on May 13, 2025—Top Gun Day—hosts Brian "Ponch" Rivera and Mark "Moose" McGrath dive into John Boyd’s OODA Loop through the "Four Ps of OODA": Perception, Pathfinding, Predictio...
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Season 3
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Episode 116
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51:49

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