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No Way Out
Welcome to the No Way Out podcast where we examine the variety of domains and disciplines behind John R. Boyd’s OODA sketch and why, today, more than ever, it is an imperative to understand Boyd’s axiomatic sketch of how organisms, individuals, teams, corporations, and governments comprehend, shape, and adapt in our VUCA world.
Podcasting since 2023 • 116 episodes
No Way Out
Latest Episodes
Top Gun Day Special: The Four Ps of OODA
In this electrifying No Way Out podcast episode, recorded on May 13, 2025—Top Gun Day—hosts Brian "Ponch" Rivera and Mark "Moose" McGrath dive into John Boyd’s OODA Loop through the "Four Ps of OODA": Perception, Pathfinding, Predictio...
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Season 3
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Episode 116
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51:49
The Elk Hunter's Journey: Leadership, Adaptability, and Self-Discovery in the Wild with Gilbert Ornelas and Joe Giglia
This episode explores the profound life lessons derived from elk hunting, emphasizing adaptability, decision-making, and self-awareness. Joe and Gilbert from the Elk Brothers discuss how their coaching transcends hunting, offering insights appl...
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Season 3
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Episode 115
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1:20:49
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From Cockpit to OR: Surgical Precision and Team Performance With Dr. Matt Cooper
Dr. Cooper drops jaw-dropping tales: defying an anesthesia chief with "he’s not dead till I say he’s dead" to save a bleeding patient (still alive years later), or dodging disaster at 500 feet with quick thinking and trim. From the cockpit to t...
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Season 3
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Episode 114
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1:05:41
Alan Green and The America Codes: We Are One (No Way Out Ep. 113)
Dive into an electrifying episode of No Way Out that will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about America’s founding—and the very fabric of reality itself. Host Ponch and veteran co-host Bart welcome Alan Green, a polymath w...
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Season 3
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Episode 113
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2:31:19
Boyd's Real OODA Loop: Deconstructing TEoWL with Chet Richards
John Boyd's OODA loop is widely misunderstood. In this illuminating conversation with Chet Richards – a close colleague of Boyd who received the original OODA loop sketch in the mail – we explore what Boyd actually meant when he created this po...
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Season 3
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Episode 112
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1:07:39
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