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No Way Out
No Way Out: The #1 Podcast on John Boyd’s OODA Loop, The Flow System, and Navigating UncertaintySponsored by AGLX — a global network powering adaptive leadership, enterprise agility, and resilient teams in complex, high-stakes environments.Home to the deepest explorations of Colonel John R. Boyd’s OODA Loop (Observe–Orient–Decide–Act), Destruction and Creation, Patterns of Conflict — and the official voice of The Flow System, the modern evolution of Boyd’s ideas into complex adaptive systems, team-of-teams design, and achieving unbreakable flow.
140+ episodes | New episodes weekly We show how Boyd’s work, The Flow System, and AGLX’s real-world experience enable leaders, startups, militaries, and organizations to out-think, out-adapt, and out-maneuver in today’s chaotic VUCA world — from business strategy and cybersecurity to agile leadership, trading, sports, safety, mental health, and personal decision-making.Subscribe now for the clearest OODA Loop explanations, John Boyd breakdowns, and practical tools for navigating uncertainty available anywhere in 2025.
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Episodes
149 episodes
Presence That Works in Real Life: Jody Weiss on Attention Training, Nervous System Regulation, and Micro-Practices for High-Pressure Leaders
Imagine stepping off the freezing Manhattan street and finding a steady warmth at the bottom of your breath. That’s the thread running through our conversation with Jody Weiss—meditator, community builder, and co-host of Exploring Reality Maybe...
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Episode 149
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52:02
Network Centric Warfare: OODA Loop, John Boyd, and Creating Operational Flow
What if the secret to winning—on the battlefield and in business—isn’t more technology, but smarter trust? We sit down with Col (Ret.) Frederick P. Stein, coauthor of
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Episode 148
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1:18:43
Reorienting After Trauma: From Yom Kippur War Hero to PTSD Pioneer | Dr. Yuval Neria
A decorated tank commander and recipient of Israel's Medal of Valor sits down with us to rethink how trauma is understood and treated. Dr. Yuval Neria recounts twelve brut...
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Episode 147
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1:17:34
OODA Loop: Reorientation, Flow, and Adaptive Leadership with Ed Brenegar
Certainty feels safe, but it slows you down—and in chaos, slow is dead. On No Way Out Podcast, we sit with leadership expert Ed Brenegar to unpack what separates rigid managers chasing control from true leaders who build adaptive teams that mov...
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Episode 146
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1:57:18
Unlocking Reality: OODA Loops, Emergence, and the Mind's Hidden Boundaries
Dive deep into the intersections of John Boyd's OODA loop, emergence, and the nature of reality in this mind-expanding episode of No Way Out. Hosts Ponch and Moose (Mark) welcome patent attorney and author
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Episode 145
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2:00:20
Trend Following Warfare: John Boyd's OODA Loop in Trading
Most investors want comfort. We make the case for discomfort. This conversation dives into trend following as a rule-based way to survive chaotic markets, mapped directly to John Boyd’s OODA Loop and the culture that made the Turtle Traders rel...
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Episode 144
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1:11:17
Sun Tzu to AI: OODA Loop – Moral Conflict, Human Flourishing, or Dependency?
In this profound episode of No Way Out, hosts Moose and Ponch sit down with Dr. Mihaela Ulieru – robotics pioneer, AI ethics advisor, and governance expert – for a mind-expanding conversat...
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Episode 143
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1:50:58
Beyond the Linear OODA Loop: Jon Becker Breaks Down Authentic OODA Loop
Explore the authentic OODA loop with Jon Becker on No Way Out Podcast – John Boyd's strategies for tactical leadership and decision makingFresh off Mark “Moose” McGrath’s viral appearance on The Debrief...
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Episode 142
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1:05:22
Unrestricted Decline: Debt, Inflation and The Road to Serfdom (w/ Max Borders)
What if the maps we’re all using are lying to us?In this episode we yank the curtain back and connect the dots most shows leave scattered: The “devouring mother” vs. “tyrannical father” archetypes now fighting for contro...
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Episode 141
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1:33:02
The REAL Story of the Snowmobile – John Boyd’s Famous Metaphor Comes to Life
A grain elevator turned upside down. A Chevy bumper cut in half. A Model T steering sector pulled from the yard. That’s not a lab; that’s the birth of the modern snowmobile—and the clearest proof that real creativity starts with what’s already ...
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Episode 140
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37:58
MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
What if relief wasn’t months away, but days? We sit down with ER physician and Ember Health cofounder Dr. Nico Grundmann to unpack how IV ketamine delivers fast, measurable change for people living with depression, PTSD, and suicidal thoughts—e...
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Episode 139
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1:20:27
From F-14 Tomcats to Toad Medicine: 1 Year Inside Ambio w/ Mark "Slider" Keller
Conor McGregor just put ibogaine and Ambio on the map with 5M+ views in 24 hours. Former Navy "TOPGUN" Mark “Slider” Keller (now an Ambio host who has guided 250+ veterans and first responders through treatment) joins his old OCS roommate Ponch...
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Episode 138
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1:25:09
Central Banks Bubble Machine vs. Mises & OODA Economics
Bubbles don’t start with hype.They start with money that was never earned through prior production.Frank Shostak walks us through the entire chain: how warehouse receipts became fiat, how suspension of redemption became “monetary pol...
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Episode 137
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1:20:34
From Cockpit to Hardwood: OODA Loop & CLA Basketball with David Cochrane
A roaring flyover sets the tone for a fast, high-stakes conversation: how do we turn clean drills into game-winning decisions? We sit down with Coach David Cochrane to map the OODA loop—Observe, Orient, Decide, Act—onto basketball in a way that...
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Episode 136
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1:03:02
Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
What if thought has shape—and that shape guides what we notice, believe, and decide?In this mind-expanding episode of No Way Out Podcast, Romanian researcher Tib Roibu unveils Polynon Theory—a revolutionary ...
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Episode 135
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1:09:34
OODA in Sports Coaching: Constraints-Led Approach (CLA) Insights
Rob Gray, PhD on Constraints-Led Approach (CLA) in Sports CoachingDive deep into Col. John Boyd’s OODA Loop through the Constraints Led Approach (CLA) with Rob Gray (Arizona State University, Perception-Action Podcast). Dis...
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Episode 134
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1:09:42
Agentic AI Thinks Like Boyd: The OODA Upgrade LLMs Can’t Touch
🎖️ **Royal Marine Commando Ben Ford** (software engineer, Haskell/category theory) joins *No Way Out* to expose the **OODA loop myth** most AI devs still believe. 🔥 **Agentic AI runs John Boyd’s *real* OODA** — not the linear "obse...
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Episode 133
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1:17:57
Real-Time Policing in Chicagoland: Real OODA With Lou Hayes, Jr
Momentum favors those who move first. We sit down with Lou Hayes to trace how real-time crime centers (RTCC) rooftop drones, and secure collaboration tools are compressing response times from minutes to seconds—and what that means on the street...
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Episode 132
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1:19:32
Naval Power in Action with CAPT Brent Sadler, USN (Ret.)
Ponch and Moose connect with Brent Sadler, a retired U.S. Navy Captain and Senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation, discussi...
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Episode 131
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1:25:39
Spatial Web + Active Inference: Beyond LLMs | Dan Mapes
🌐 **Spatial Web + Active Inference = Intelligent Planet** Dan Mapes (Versus AI, Spatial Web Foundation) joins *No Way Out* to **destroy LLM myths** and reveal **FEP-powered 3D web**What if the web didn’t...
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Episode 130
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1:06:17
Betrayal of Command: LtCol Asad ‘Genghis’ Khan, USMC (Ret.) on Toxic Leadership & Afghanistan Failure
\A Marine who grew up in Pakistan and rose through the Corps brings a view you do not get in a briefing book. LtCol Asad “Genghis” Khan, USMC (ret) talks straight about war, culture, and the co...
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Episode 129
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2:34:01
Bad Boyd, Good Receipts: Inside Snowmobiles & Grand Ideals with Ian Brown
The myths are seductive: a Top Gun fighter pilot invents the OODA loop from the cockpit of his F-86 and spends the rest of his life proving it. The truth is better—and far more useful. We sit down with Ian Brown to explore Snowmobiles and Grand...
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Episode 128
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1:28:09
Military Hardware to Mental Health: Perceptual Control Theory with Warren Mansell, PhD
What if everything you thought you knew about human behavior was backward? Imagine discovering that we don't actually control our behavior at all—instead, our behavior is merely the observable side effect of our brains controlling what we perce...
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Episode 127
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1:31:16
Autism, Telepathy and New "Outside" Information with Dr. Julia Mossbridge
What if the key to unlocking human consciousness lies not in neurotypical experiences, but in the unique ways non-speaking autistic individuals perceive and interact with reality? In this captivating episode of No Way Out, host Brian "Ponch" Ri...
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Season 3
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Episode 126
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1:06:59
TOPGUN vs. Major Boyd: Humans Over Algorithms with CAPT Dan Pederson
In this episode of No Way Out , Captain Dan "Yank" Pederson, the "Godfather" of TOPGUN, shares the origin story of the Navy Fighter Weapons School, established in 1969 during the Vietnam War to address a 2:1 kill ratio that exposed def...
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Season 3
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Episode 125
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